Brother Heber wants to know whether he has said anything wrong. So far
as I am concerned, and so far as the truth is concerned, he has not.
He is very careless in the use of language; but I do not so much care
how he or any of the brethren express their ideas, when their hearts
are right before God.
When we have only the one desire to promote the kingdom of God on the
earth, the people will be right.
Brother Heber is very full of comparisons; and I will liken brother
Heber's language to the conduct of some of this people. He talks just
as ideas happen to come into his mind; and some of the people act just
as it happens at the moment, not thinking what they do. And yet their
desire is to do right; and the greatest faults that most of them see
in each other arise through weakness and ignorance, and not through an
evil design. They desire to do right, just as brother Heber desires to
talk as straight as a line; but he has so long been in the habit of
making his own dictionary and using his words out of it, that it would
be difficult for him to change his style now.
No matter what the outward appearance is—if I can know of a truth that
the hearts of the people are fully set to do the will of their Father
in heaven, though they may falter and do a great many things through
the weaknesses of human nature, yet, they will be saved. You will hear
among such persons observations that appear very much out of the way;
but, at the same time, they will say that "it does seem that when I
would try to do good, and to do my best, evil will come before me."
If there is an outward appearance of mistakes or evils, we ought to
have the Spirit of the Lord to look at the designs of the actors, and
know whether they act from impure or sinister motives. If their
motives are pure—no matter whether their outward appearance is
particularly precise, their acts will be discerned by the Spirit of
the Lord, and will be appreciated for what they were intended. If
people act from pure motives, though their outward movements may not
always be so pleasant as our traditions would prefer, yet God will
make those acts result in the best good to the people.
I wish the people to know that they have to come to the position that,
in their feelings and affections, the kingdom of God must be all in
all to us. If we are not in that position, you will find that we will
be scourged and afflicted until we are. With us it must be the kingdom
of God all the time: it must be that or nothing. The time has come in
which that must be the common feeling with the Saints.
As to the world's being in fellowship with us, it never was and it
never can be. We cut off the Gentiles just before we left Nauvoo; and
they have cut us off from their fellowship. The thread is cut that has
hitherto connected us; and now we have to act for ourselves
and build up the kingdom of God on the earth, which we will do, by the
help of the Lord; for he has decreed that his kingdom shall take the
ascendancy over all other kingdoms under heaven.
It was observed by brother Spencer that the time had come for this
work to be making far more rapid strides than it has hitherto done.
You will find that it has not been by any act of our own that this
thread has been cut; but we will now have to sustain ourselves, or we
will go under. We have not desired it—we have not naturally wished for
this crisis to come; but inasmuch as it has come, if the people, in
the strength of Israel's God, sustain themselves, they will be
If we are united, we are independent of the powers of hell and of the
world, which terms are synonymous with me. We are now free and easy;
and if we succumb to the wicked, our hearts sink within us and we
sicken and die; but when my feelings are decided that we will defend
ourselves against all who come here to destroy us or to oppose the
establishment of truth on the earth, I feel perfectly free and light
as the air. Does brother Spencer feel so? I presume that he does, and
also that every Saint feels as free as the mountain breezes.
I am free and easy, and I am not concerned about having too much rest;
though, when my feelings are at rest, and I have not an hundred tons
weight upon my shoulders, a feeling comes over me like this—"Are you
not becoming slothful?" As soon as I have a good sound reflection upon
the matter, I feel to thank God that he will let me rest at times, and
not always require me to bear a burden like carrying a hundred tons.
Be faithful; and if you are attentive to your duties, God will take
care of the rest.
We talk of enjoying, multiplying, and increasing in the things of God.
All that we can do is to prepare to receive anything that God may see
fit to give. I do not know but that I am just as well prepared to
receive revelations this morning as I shall be millions of years
hence. I do not know but that I shall be prepared to do the will of
God, according to my capacity, as well today or tomorrow as I shall
be when I have spent millions of years in his presence.
You hear people in the sectarian world talk about preparing to die;
but the religion that we have embraced teaches us to prepare to live.
If we were now going to exchange this world for another, I do not know
but that we are as well prepared as we shall be in years to come. I
have felt that I never should be better prepared to receive the glory
of the spirit world than I am now, according to my present capacity.
While brother Heber was talking about our travels in 1834, I remember
that brother Joseph said the camp should be cursed. We had some wicked
men in the company, and Joseph discerned the spirits of those men, and
said that the camp should be cursed and that they should feel the
heavy hand of the Lord. Brother Heber came to me and said, "I do not
know that I could have done any better, even though it had been to
save my natural life;" and he did do well and continued to do so. And
I will say that I do not know that I can do any better than I am
You and I may be ready to fight: we may be ready to plant seed, and,
if called upon, to cache grain in the mountains, and to do whatever
the Lord may require at our hands. Let us do whatever may be required.
If we are called upon to take our women and children into the
mountains, let us do that; if to burn, let us be on hand to burn; if
to build more, let us do that; and whatever we are required to
do, let us do.
We called up a Bishop, the other night, to go on an express; and when
he came to my office, I said to him, "Brother Thomas, are you ready?"
He replied, "Yes." Though he did not know what was wanted of him, yet
he was ready. He asked, "When do you want me?" I replied, "Early
tomorrow morning" (now, yesterday morning); and he was there at the
time—which is the way that men should feel and act.
The main object of my present remarks has been to have the people know
whether they are taught right—to have them know whether they are
receiving the word of the Lord from this stand—to have them know
whether they are led right.
As to being afflicted, never fear that: only fear that you are not
living as well as you might, and then there is no danger. You know how
you have been led, and I can say that you try to walk in the path that
leads to improvement and purity and to never do a known evil. When you
know that an evil is before you, pass it by, and do that which tends
to good, and all will be right.
If you are not led right, or if you are afraid that you are not going
to be led right, just find out a better way; for that is your
privilege, if you are not already led right. And if you will live so
as to know God better than any other man, or find someone that knows
God better, and of whom you can learn more of God—a man that knows
better how to dictate the affairs of the Church, all will be right.
I wish that every man would live so that he could have communion with
angels—so that Jesus would come to visit him. I wish I could see this
people in such a position; but there is yet too much sin in our midst:
our traditions cling to us so strongly, that we cannot yet break
through into that liberty; but we will see the day, if faithful, in
which we can converse with angels. There are persons in this
congregation that will converse with angels just as freely as we
converse with each other.
Be faithful, and God will not only fight for us, but he will also lead
us to victory. What has been said today is true. You know that brother
Heber almost always testifies to the truth of what he says; but I do
not care whether you think that what I say is true or not, for that
does not concern me. You may judge of the truth you hear today and of
that which you will hear in times to come; for we shall be judges of
ourselves as well as of our enemies, and we shall also judge angels.
God bless you! Amen.