I will make a few remarks upon the same subject that was presented
this forenoon, although there were many leading items in those remarks
that would require a considerable length of time for me to give my
views upon them, and to explain fully what I understand in relation to
them. My brethren, who rise here to speak to the people, are also
aware that it is impossible to fully explain to the congregation all
the points that may be alluded to in a discourse.
Hence I design to speak a few words concerning the Kingdom of God. Not
that I would disagree in the least from the remarks made by brothers
Grant and Pratt, or that we differ in our views upon this subject. It
is an extensive one, and the usual time never permits a person, in one
short discourse, to fully explain such subjects as were presented for
our edification this morning. I noticed throughout the remarks of both
of the brethren that they did not make sufficient distinction, nor
make it plain to the minds of the people, that the Kingdom of God
would be different, in a certain sense, from all other kingdoms and
empires upon the earth: this was for the want of time. In public
speaking a man's mind is often led from one idea to another, branching
to the right and to the left upon matters and points that need
explanation, and I presume this is more particularly the case upon the
subject of the Kingdom than any other.
If you and I could live in the flesh until that Kingdom is fully
established, and actually spread abroad to rule in a temporal point of
view, we should find that it will sustain and uphold every individual
in what they deem their individual rights, so far as they do not
infringe upon the rights of their fellow creatures. For instance, if
the Kingdom of God was now established upon the continent of North and
South America, and actually held rule and dominion over what we call
the United States, the Methodist would be protected just as much as
the Latter-day Saints; the Friend Quakers, the Shaking Quakers, and
the members of every religious denomination would be sustained in what
they considered to be their rights, so far as their notions were not
incompatible with the laws of the Kingdom.
The Calvinist would be equally preserved in his rights, whether he
believed, wished to believe, or said he believed and did not believe,
that God has foreordained whatsoever comes to pass, and has dictated
from all eternity the acts of the children of men down to the end of
time, embracing every sin and every transgression of the law that has
ever been committed upon the earth, from the first creation of man
upon it; the Kingdom of God will protect him in that belief, and
extend to him the privilege and the liberty of believing that, as
fully as we should have the liberty of believing the opposite.
Again, men would come and say, "We believe in the Christian religion, but we firmly believe that the God we wish to serve has no
eyes, no ears, no mouth, no head, and no body, that he is not composed
of elements, that he has no parts nor passions, that his center is
everywhere, his circumference nowhere; we firmly believe in serving
such a God." That people would be preserved in their rights just as
much as the people who believe that God lives, exists, and has the
power of seeing, hearing, knowing, and understanding, and that we are
organized and fashioned after, or, in other words, made like unto Him.
This is what the Kingdom of God will do for the inhabitants of the
earth. If a sect should arise and say, "We do not believe in a God at
all, and only in that which we can see, hear, taste, and handle, that
which we can understand, or in gods our own hands have made, which we
have carved out of wood or stone, or cast from metal, we believe in
serving only such god; we have many gods, we have a god for every
element that has come within the range of our understanding, one for
the air, the water, the sun, the moon, the different planets, and the
stars; we have a god of war and a god of peace, which we carve out of
wood and stone, or make them of silver, gold, iron, or copper, and put
them in our temples. These are the gods we worship, and do not believe
in any other god or gods" —even they would be preserved in their
individual rights and belief, as much so as the Latter-day Saints.
When the Kingdom of God is fully set up and established on the face of
the earth, and takes the pre-eminence over all other nations and
kingdoms, it will protect the people in the enjoyment of all their
rights, no matter what they believe, what they profess, or what they
worship. If they wish to worship a god of their own workmanship,
instead of the true and living God, all right, if they will mind their
own business and let other people alone.
As was observed by brother Pratt, that Kingdom is actually organized,
and the inhabitants of the earth do not know it. If this people know
anything about it, all right; it is organized preparatory to taking
effect in the due time of the Lord, and in the manner that shall
please Him. As observed by one of the speakers this morning, that
Kingdom grows out of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,
but it is not the Church, for a man may be a legislator in that body
which will issue laws to sustain the inhabitants of the earth in their
individual rights, and still not belong to the Church of Jesus Christ
And further, though a man may not even believe in any religion, it
would be perfectly right, when necessary, to give him the privilege of
holding a seat among that body which will make laws to govern all the
nations of the earth and control those who make no profession of
religion at all; for that body would be governed, controlled, and
dictated to acknowledge others in those rights which they wish to
enjoy themselves. Then the Latter-day Saints would be protected, if a
Kingdom of this kind was on the earth, the same as all other people.
It was observed this morning that the government of the United States
was the best or most wholesome one on the earth, and the best adapted
to our condition. That is very true. And if the Constitution of the
United States, and the laws of the United States, and of the several
States, were honored by the officers, by those who sit in judgment and
dispense the laws to the people, yes, had even the letter of the law
been honored, to say nothing of the spirit of it, of the spirit of
right, it would have hung Governors, Judges, Generals, Magistrates,
&c., for they violated the laws of their own States.
Such has been the case with our ene mies in every instance that
this people have been persecuted. If a person belonging to the Church
of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was guilty of stealing while
living in the States, or if any of that Church were found guilty of
murder, or any other transgression of the civil law, they ought to
have been tried by the law, and have received the punishment affixed
to the crime. Did any of the Latter-day Saints object to that? No, not
one. Joseph the Prophet never objected to it, but on the contrary he
urged it, prayed for it, and wished the Church to be delivered from
While we were in Illinois, if every transgressor of the law of that
State, in our community, had been taken up and tried and punished,
every Saint would have said, "Amen, we are better without than with
them." So we say here, we are far better off without wicked men than
with them. I would rather be in the midst of these mountains with one
thousand, or even five hundred, men who are Latter-day Saints, than
with five hundred thousand wicked men, in case all the forces of the
earth were to come against us to battle, for God would fight the
battles of the Saints, but He has not agreed to fight the battles of
I say again that the Constitution, and laws of the United States, and
the laws of the different States, as a general thing, are just as good
as we want, provided they were honored. But we find Judges who do not
honor the laws, yes, officers of the law dishonor the law. Legislators
and lawmakers are frequently the first violators of the laws they
make. "When the wicked rule the people mourn," and when the corruption
of a people bears down the scale in favor of wickedness, that people
is nigh unto destruction.
We have the proof on hand, that instead of the laws being honored,
they have been violated in every instance of persecution against this
people; instead of the laws being made honorable, they have been
trampled under the feet of lawyers, judges, sheriffs, governors,
legislators, and nearly all the officers of the government; such
persons are the most guilty of breaking the laws.
To diverge a little, in regard to those who have persecuted this
people and driven them to the mountains, I intend to meet them on
their own grounds. It was asked this morning how we could obtain
redress for our wrongs; I will tell you how it could be done, we
could take the same law they have taken, viz., mobocracy, and if any
miserable scoundrels come here, cut their throats. (All the people
This would be meting out that treatment to wicked men, which they had
measured to innocent persons. We could meet them on their own ground,
when they will not honor the law, but will kill the Prophets and
destroy the innocent. They could drive the innocent from their homes,
take their houses and farms, cattle and goods, and destroy men, women,
and children, walking over the laws of the United States, trampling
them under their feet, and not honoring a single law.
Suppose I should follow the example they have shown us, and say,
"Latter-day Saints, do ye likewise, and bid defiance to the whole clan
of such men!" Some who are timid might say, "O! Our property will be
destroyed, and we shall be killed." If any man here is a coward, there
are fine mountain retreats for those who feel their hearts beating, at
every little hue and cry of the wicked, as though they would break
After this year we shall very likely again have fruitful seasons. Now,
you cowards, if there are any, hunt in these mountains until you find
some cavern where no person can find you, and go there and store up
grain enough to last you and your families seven years; then
when the mob comes, take your wives and your children, and creep into
your den, and there remain until the war is over.
Do not apostatize to save your lives, for if you do, you are sure to
lose them. You may do some good by laying up a little more grain than
you want, and by handing out a biscuit to a brave hearted soldier
passing by, hungry and fatigued. I could hide myself in these
mountains, and defy five hundred thousand men to find me. That is not
all, I could hide this whole people, and fifty times more, in the
midst of these mountains, and our enemies might hunt until they died
with old age, and they could not find us. You who are cowards, lay up
your crops another year and hide them away.
You know that almost every time that Gentiles address us in public,
they are very mindful to caution the Latter-day Saints "not to fight,
now don't fight." Have we ever wanted to fight them? No, but we have
wanted to preach to them the Gospel of peace.
Again, they say, "We are afraid that you, Latter-day Saints, are
becoming aliens to the United States; we are afraid your hearts are
weaned from the brotherhood down yonder." Don't talk about weaning
now, for we were weaned long ago, that is, we are or should be weaned
from all wickedness and wicked men. I am so perfectly weaned that when
I embraced "Mormonism," I could have left father, mother, wife,
children, and every relation I had, and am weaned from everybody that
will turn a deaf ear to the voice of revelation. We are already
weaned, but remember, we are not weaned from the Constitution of the
United States, but only from wickedness, or at least we should be. Let
every man and woman rise up in the strength of their God, and in their
hearts ask no favors of the wicked; that is the way to live, and then
let the wicked persecute, if they choose.
Are we going to fight? No, unless they come upon us and compel us
either to fight or be slain.
Last fall we were visited by some of the brotherhood from the east,
and I said, "Come in, my brother, come into my house; this is Mrs.
Young, this is my daughter, and this is sister so and so. Wilford,
Joseph, and William, open your houses and let these eastern brethren
stay with us in comfortable quarters this winter." Wilford turns his
family out of a fine house into a log cabin, to let the brotherhood
in. Not a person, with but one exception, opened his house for their
accommodation, without first asking my counsel. I said, "Yes, open
your houses, turn out your wives and children, and let the brotherhood
come in, and prove to the old stock, that we are their friends if they
will do anything like what is decent;" and we furnished them
comfortable winter quarters.
Directly the brotherhood began to pass around, and, as brother Grant
said today, with a glove halfway on their fingers, apparently so
virtuous in the daylight that they durst not touch a female's hand
with theirs, unless gloved, but under the shadows of night they would
go whisking around, here and there, saying, "Won't you take a sleigh
ride with me this evening? Step into my carriage, and take a ride."
These proceedings were directly in the face and eyes of this people.
What did they do when I introduced them to a wife, a daughter, or a
sister, with all the grace, politeness, and kindness that could be
expected from any man? As quick as my back was turned, it would be,
"Miss, or Madam, I want to get into bed with you. Look here, you come
to my office, won't you? I have a good bed there."
I will cut the matter short, and ask, once for all, did they return the
compliment, and without exception reciprocate the kindness and
courtesy with which they were invariably met? No, they did not, at
least not all of them, for several returned evil for good, and
introduced wickedness and corruption into our midst, and the Lord
knows that we already had enough of that to contend with.
Past experience has taught the brethren that in future it will
probably be the best policy to let soldiery quarter by themselves, and
I am perfectly willing.
If persons come here and behave like gentlemen, they shall enjoy their
rights, and we will enjoy ours or fight to the death. Let the laws of
the United States be honored, and the laws of the individual States,
and we will do as the Kingdom of God will do—protect everybody in
The experience of the last winter has taught us a good lesson, and we
hope it has taught the people generally a lesson. I am troubled all
the time with, "Brother Brigham," and "President Young, I do love you,
President Young," when at the same time some, who use such
expressions, will have one arm round my neck, loving me dearly, and
the other around the neck of a scoundrel, trying to get Christ and
Belial together; this I cannot endure.
If a man will keep a grog shop and permit wickedness to fester around
him, or do anything else that is contrary to the Christian religion
taught in the New Testament, I say to all such, either stop it, or
take your property and leave, for our laws do not tolerate it, and we
will put them in force against you. As to again suffering the
wickedness and misrule of foul spirits that come into our midst, and
are treated by us as gentlemen, I will not.
I will say to such official gentlemen as tell and boast "what the
General Government is going to do," or "what they themselves will do,"
or "what they want to do," thinking to terrify the Latter-day Saints,
that you may as well undertake to terrify the Almighty on His throne,
as to terrify a Latter-day Saint of the true stripe—one who has the
true blood in him.
True, there are many timid persons: timidity or fear is a weakness of
the flesh; but to that person who has so far obtained the victory over
the flesh as to know how God is dealing with the people, there is no
terror, for he is just as ready to die as to live, just as the Lord
pleases; his object is to do right, and he fears not.
The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Jesus taught his disciples to pray
that the kingdom of heaven might come upon the earth, and when it does
come, you will find that it will be very different from what many
people are imagining or expecting it will be. Its spirit will be to
preserve their individual rights sacred to the inhabitants of the
What is the foundation of the rights of man? The Lord Almighty has
organized man for the express purpose of becoming an independent being
like unto Himself, and has given him his individual agency. Man is
made in the likeness of his Creator, the great archetype of the human
species, who bestowed upon him the principles of eternity, planting
immortality within him, and leaving him at liberty to act in the way
that seemeth good unto him, to choose or refuse for himself; to be a
Latter-day Saint or a Wesleyan Methodist, to belong to the Church of
England, the oldest daughter of the Mother Church, to the old Mother
herself, to her sister the Greek Church, or to be an infidel and
belong to no church.
As I have just stated, the Lord Almighty has organized every human
creature for the express purpose of becoming independent, and
has designed that they should be capable of receiving the principles
of eternity to a fulness; and when they have received them unto a
fulness, they are made perfect, like unto the Son of Man, and become
Gods, even the Sons of God.
I am so far from believing that any government upon this earth has
constitutions and laws that are perfect, that I do not even believe
that there is a single revelation, among the many God has given to the
Church, that is perfect in its fulness. The revelations of God contain
correct doctrine and principle, so far as they go; but it is
impossible for the poor, weak, low, groveling, sinful inhabitants of
the earth to receive a revelation from the Almighty in all its
perfections. He has to speak to us in a manner to meet the extent of
our capacities, as we have to do with these benighted Lamanites; it
would be of no benefit to talk to them as I am now speaking to you.
Before you can enter into conversation with them and give them your
ideas, you are under the necessity of condescending to their low
estate, so far as communication is concerned, in order to exalt them.
You have to use the words they use, and address them in a manner to
meet their capacities, in order to give them the knowledge you have to
bestow. If an angel should come into this congregation, or visit any
individual of it, and use the language he uses in heaven, what would
we be benefited? Not any, because we could not understand a word he
said. When angels come to visit mortals, they have to condescend to
and assume, more or less, the condition of mortals, they have to
descend to our capacities in order to communicate with us. I make
these remarks to show you that the kingdom of heaven is not yet
complete upon the earth. Why? Because the people are not prepared to
receive it in its completeness, for they are not complete or perfect
The laws that the Lord has given are not fully perfect, because the
people could not receive them in their perfect fulness; but they can
receive a little here and a little there, a little today and a little
tomorrow, a little more next week, and a little more in advance of
that next year, if they make a wise improvement upon every little they
receive; if they do not, they are left in the shade, and the light
which the Lord reveals will appear darkness to them, and the kingdom
of heaven will travel on and leave them groping. Hence, if we wish to
act upon the fulness of the knowledge that the Lord designs to reveal,
little by little, to the inhabitants of the earth, we must improve
upon every little as it is revealed.
When He tells you how to purify your hearts, purify them. He says to
the nations, "I send unto you my servants, I raise up unto you a
Prophet, and call upon you, O inhabitants of the earth, through him,
to repent of your sins." Do the people believe it is right to repent
of their sins? Yes. How shall they repent of them? By forsaking them.
If they will do this, the Lord will teach them how to become Saints.
In what manner? By calling upon them through His servants to be
baptized for the remission of sins, if they want to have their sins
remitted, if they wish to be washed and made clean.
But before they go into the waters of baptism, they must forsake all
their wicked practices, and covenant before the Lord to leave them
forever behind them, saying, "Now we will go and serve the Lord our
Maker." Has the Lord called upon the inhabitants of the earth in this
way? Has He not taught you and me to become Latter-day Saints in this
way? He has. Are we Saints still? When we first received the
spirit of the Gospel, what was the world to us, with its grandeur, its
riches, its elegance, its finery, its gaudy show, its glittering array
of paltry honors, its empty titles, and everything pertaining to it?
Nothing but a shadow, when the Lord opened our minds and by the
visions of His Spirit revealed to us a few of the things He had in
reserve for the faithful, which were only, as it were, a drop in the
bucket, compared to the ocean yet to be revealed. Yet that little made
our hearts leap for joy, and we felt that we could forsake everything
for the knowledge of Jesus Christ and the perfections that we saw in
Are you Saints still? If you are not, repent of your sins and do your
first works. Has the Lord taught you how to consecrate yourselves to
His service, build up His kingdom, and send forth the Gospel to the
uttermost parts of the earth, that others may rejoice in the same
Spirit that you have received, and enjoy the same things you enjoy?
Yes, He has; and what more? A great deal more. He has taught you how
to purify yourselves, and become holy, and be prepared to enter into
His kingdom, how you can advance from one degree to another, and grow
in grace and in the knowledge of the truth, until you are prepared to
enter the celestial kingdom; how to pass every sentinel, watchman, and
Then go on and build the Temples of the Lord, that you may receive the
endowments in store for you, and possess the keys of the eternal
Priesthood, that you may receive every word, sign, and token, and be
made acquainted with the laws of angels, and of the kingdom of our
Father and our God, and know how to pass from one degree to another,
and enter fully into the joy of your Lord. Latter-day Saints, do you
live to this, do you seek after it with all your heart? You are aware
that the Lord is able to reveal all this in one day, but you could not
understand it. The Elders who have preached abroad, and the Sisters
who have taught their neighbors at home, know by experience that this
When your minds have been lighted up with the candle of the Lord, and
you have been able to speak forth the great things of God, things that
were beyond the capacities of the people to receive, you have felt
your ideas apparently rebound or return to you again. So it is with
the Lord; He would be glad to send angels to communicate further to
this people, but there is no room to receive it, consequently, He
cannot come and dwell with you. There is a further reason—we are not
capacitated to throw off in one day all our traditions, and our
prepossessed feelings and notions, but have to do it little by little.
It is a gradual process, advancing from one step to another; and as we
lay off our false traditions and foolish notions, we receive more and
more light, and thus we grow in grace; and if we continue so to grow
we shall be prepared eventually to receive the Son of Man, and that is
what we are after.
I wish to proceed a little further with regard to the Kingdom of God.
The principles, doctrine, germ, and, I may say, marrow of that Kingdom
are actually planted on the earth, but does it grow to perfection at
once? No. When wheat is planted and germinates, you first see the
blade, and by and by the head forming in the boot, from which in due
time it bursts forth and makes its appearance. When this Kingdom is
set up on the earth, and spreads, its condition is happily set forth
in the toast that was given here on the fourth, viz.—"May the wings of
the American Eagle spread over the nations, and its down fall on
America." Suppose the Kingdom of God is compared to the American
Eagle; when it spreads over the na tions, what will it do? Will
it destroy every other bird that now flies, or that will fly? No, but
they will exist the same as they do now. When the Kingdom of Heaven
spreads over the whole earth, do you expect that all the people
composing the different nations will become Latter-day Saints? If you
do, you will be much mistaken.
Do you expect that every person will be destroyed from the face of the
earth, but the Latter-day Saints? If you do, you will be mistaken.
Many of our Elders labor under these erroneous expectations when
reading over the sayings of the Apostles and Prophets in regard to the
coming of the Son of Man. In one verse the Prophet will be describing
the second Coming previous to the commencement of the Millennium, and
perhaps in the same verse he will describe a scene that will take
place after the Millennium, and when the earth will be cleansed from
all wickedness, after Satan has been let loose a little season, and
had another tour upon it, and after it is renovated and becomes
sanctified, and is like a sea of glass, as John describes it. Will
this be in the Millennium? No. But the order of society will be as it
is when Christ comes to reign a thousand years; there will be every
sort of sect and party, and every individual following what he
supposes to be the best in religion, and in everything else, similar
to what it is now.
Will there be wickedness then as now? No. How will you make this
appear? When Jesus comes to rule and reign King of Nations as he now
does King of Saints, the veil of the covering will be taken from all
nations, that all flesh may see his glory together, but that will not
make them all Saints. Seeing the Lord does not make a man a Saint,
seeing an Angel does not make a man a Saint by any means. A man may
see the finger of the Lord, and not thereby become a Saint; the veil
of the covering may be taken from before the nations, and all flesh
see His glory together, and at the same time declare they will not
serve Him. They may, perhaps, feel something as a woman in Missouri
did, who had been driven four times, and when she was about to be
driven again she said, "I will be damned if I will stand it any
longer; if God wants me to go through such a routine of things, He may
take me where He pleases, and do with me as He pleases; I won't stand
it any longer."
When the nations shall see the glory of God together, the spirit of
their feelings may be couched in these words, "I will be damned if I
will serve You." In those days, the Methodists and Presbyterians,
headed by their priests, will not be allowed to form into a mob to
drive, kill, and rob the Latter-day Saints; neither will the
Latter-day Saints be allowed to rise up and say, "We will kill you
Methodists, Presbyterians, &c.," neither will any of the different
sects of Christendom be allowed to persecute each other.
What will they do? They will hear of the wisdom of Zion, and the kings
and potentates of the nations will come up to Zion to inquire after
the ways of the Lord, and to seek out the great knowledge, wisdom, and
understanding manifested through the Saints of the Most High. They
will inform the people of God that they belong to such and such a
Church, and do not wish to change their religion.
They will be drawn to Zion by the great wisdom displayed there, and
will attribute it to the cunning and craftiness of men. It will be
asked, "What do you want to do, ye strangers from afar." "We want to
live our own religion." "Will you bow the knee before God with us?" "O
yes, we would as soon do it as not;" and at that time every knee shall
bow, and every tongue acknowledge that God who is the framer
and maker of all things, the governor and controller of the universe.
They will have to bow the knee and confess that He is God, and that
Jesus Christ, who suffered for the sins of the world, is actually its
Redeemer; that by the shedding of his blood he has redeemed men,
women, children, beasts, birds, fish, the earth itself, and everything
that John saw and heard praising in heaven.
They will ask, "If I bow the knee and confess that he is that Savior,
the Christ, to the glory of the Father, will you let me go home and be
a Presbyterian?" "Yes." "And not persecute me?"
"Never." "Won't you
let me go home and belong to the Greek Church?" "Yes." "Will
me to be a Friend Quaker, or a Shaking Quaker?" "O yes, anything you
wish to be, but remember that you must not persecute your neighbors,
but must mind your own business, and let your neighbors alone, and let
them worship the sun, moon, a white dog, or anything else they please,
being mindful that every knee has got to bow and every tongue confess.
When you have paid this tribute to the Most High, who created you and
preserves you, you may then go and worship what you please, or do what
you please, if you do not infringe upon your neighbors."
The brethren who spoke this morning had not time to explain these
points, and I have only just touched upon the subject.
The Church of Jesus Christ will produce this government, and cause it
to grow and spread, and it will be a shield round about the Church.
And under the influence and power of the Kingdom of God, the Church of
God will rest secure and dwell in safety, without taking the trouble
of governing and controlling the whole earth. The Kingdom of God will
do this, it will control the kingdoms of the world.
When the day comes in which the Kingdom of God will bear rule, the
flag of the United States will proudly flutter unsullied on the flag
staff of liberty and equal rights, without a spot to sully its fair
surface; the glorious flag our fathers have bequeathed to us will then
be unfurled to the breeze by those who have power to hoist it aloft
and defend its sanctity.
Up to this time we have carried the world on our backs. Joseph did it
in his day, besides carrying this whole people, and now all this is
upon my back, with my family to provide for at the same time, and we
will carry it all, and bear off the Kingdom of God. And you may pile
on state after state, and kingdom after kingdom, and all hell on top,
and we will roll on the Kingdom of our God, gather out the seed of
Abraham, build the cities and temples of Zion, and establish the
Kingdom of God to bear rule over all the earth, and let the oppressed
of all nations go free.
I have never yet talked as rough in these mountains as I did in the
United States when they killed Joseph. I there said boldly and aloud,
"If ever a man should lay his hands on me and say, on account of my
religion, 'Thou art my prisoner,' the Lord Almighty helping me, I
would send that man to hell across lots." I feel so now. Let mobbers
keep their hands off from me, or I will send them where they belong; I
am always prepared for such an emergency.
I have occupied time enough; may God bless you. Amen.